Some of the conflicts which have arisen between contemporaneous Prophets are interesting. I rely on the Prophets and prophecies exclusively from the Bible, not merely because I trust the Bible but because I don’t trust the way the Bible is being interpreted to suit the preacher’s priorities.
Week before last I had the opportunity of attending a service at King’s Temple, Hyderabad. The preacher, not only spoke on Tithes, but also caveated the listeners that one should Tithe only at the local church, which supports its members of the congregation and explicitly warned the congregation against contributing to the Tele-evangelists out of the Tithes. Understandably, Malachi 3:10 was pressed into service.
You may call me a forum shopping Christian, if you choose to. I would fain listen to a well read Osho on Christianity than listen to a ‘fire & brimstone’ doomsday preacher stirring up unsavoury anxieties to make the listeners submit to their agenda on their avowed ‘distributive infrastructure enabling’ programmes.
I believe, and firmly at that, that God given Liberty cannot be mindlessly squandered away at these exhortations which are neither consistent with the Bible nor with the teachings of Jesus.
Micaiah s/o Imlah and Zedekiah, the son of Chenaanah, stake it out in I Kings 22 chapter.
Zedekiah had mustered the support of 400 other prophets who had prophesied that if Ahab and Jehoshaphat went to war together against Syria to regain Ramoth-Gilead for Israel, Ahab along with the King of Judah Jehoshaphat would defeat the Syrians. But there is one lone voice against that prophecy by another Prophet Micaiah, who says that a ‘lying spirit’ had fallen upon the other 401 prophets and that Micaiah saw the Israelites ‘shepherdless’. The way these two prophets confront each other is dramatic and versified well:
24 But Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah went near, and smote Micaiah on the cheek, and said, Which way went the Spirit of the LORD from me to speak unto thee?
25 And Micaiah said, Behold, thou shalt see in that day, when thou shalt go into an inner chamber to hide thyself.
The issue raised was not that Zedekiah had become possessed by the ‘lying spirit‘ but how did the ‘Spirit of the Lord’ get into Micaiah? That was the question of Zedekiah. Zedekiah would that all the prophets were wrong so that the blame could be laid on the King or the people. But when the prophecies are contrary to each other, and there are two camps of Prophets with two contrary prophecies, the one who turns out to be right is likely to have an upper hand post, the event. This division cannot be countenanced by Prophets. They stand united or they rise united, but never fall. Here, by hindsight we know that Zedekiah fell.
Similar situation arose in Chapter 27 of Jeremiah, wherein Jeremiah prophesied thus:
8 And it shall come to pass, that the nation and kingdom which will not serve the same Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, and that will not put their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish, saith the LORD, with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand.
9 Therefore hearken not ye to your prophets, nor to your diviners, nor to your dreamers, nor to your enchanters, nor to your sorcerers, which speak unto you, saying, Ye shall not serve the king of Babylon:
The interesting part of this prediction was that Zedekiah, probably a close relative of the reformer King Josiah, was the then ruler of Judah and probably wanted to become a sovereign and not continue to be a vassal King of the Babylonian Nebuchadnezzar. At the same time he did not want to lose control over the king of Edom, the king of Moab, king of the Ammonites, king of Tyrus, and to the king of Zidon, who had sent messengers to Jerusalem unto Zedekiah king of Judah, either as bringers of tribute or for a conclave of the emissaries of vassal kings led by Zedekiah.
In any case the situation was not very appetising. Jeremiah makes it worse by bringing out a prophecy, which I am unable to digest.
The Almighty God makes a Jewish Prophet say that not only Nebuchadnezzar but his son and grandson would rule over their kingdom without any recourse for the Israelites to repent and gain remission for that remaining period. Has Jeremiah forgotten that Yahweh had commuted the sentence decreed on Hezekiah; has Jeremiah forgotten that Yahweh had given options to King David to choose a sentence out of three?
In the next chapter there is s counter Prophecy by Hananiah, which like the previous set of prophets, is equally dramatic:
10 Then Hananiah the prophet took the yoke from off the prophet Jeremiah’s neck, and brake it.
11 And Hananiah spake in the presence of all the people, saying, Thus saith the LORD; Even so will I break the yoke of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon from the neck of all nations within the space of two full years. And the prophet Jeremiah went his way.
12 Then the word of the LORD came unto Jeremiah the prophet, after that Hananiah the prophet had broken the yoke from off the neck of the prophet Jeremiah, saying,
13 Go and tell Hananiah, saying, Thus saith the LORD; Thou hast broken the yokes of wood; but thou shalt make for them yokes of iron.
14 For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; I have put a yoke of iron upon the neck of all these nations, that they may serve Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon; and they shall serve him: and I have given him the beasts of the field also.
15 Then said the prophet Jeremiah unto Hananiah the prophet, Hear now, Hananiah; The LORD hath not sent thee; but thou makest this people to trust in a lie.
16 Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will cast thee from off the face of the earth: this year thou shalt die, because thou hast taught rebellion against the LORD.
17 So Hananiah the prophet died the same year in the seventh month.
Quite curiously, Hananiah prophesies this in the fifth month of that year and dies after Jeremiah’s prophecy, in the seventh month of the same year.
Jeremiah, instead of extolling the mercies and long suffering nature of the Almighty is ‘prophesying’ that God had given the lands to Nebuchadnezzar, who in the meanwhile probably was erecting a big statue, said to be Nebuchadnezzar’s god, in Babylon, and busy decreeing that everyone should prostrate before that statue. Ridiculous. I am sure and believe that God knew what Nebuchadnezzar was doing back in Babylon when Jeremiah was making those prophecies.
I find this prophecy to be in tune with the Prophecy of Caiaphas in John 11 thus:
47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.
49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,
50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.
51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
I find no difference between Jeremiah’s and Caiaphas’ prophecies. It was born out of expediency.
I believe in a God, who would confront me and make me go through deeds of penance either through a punishment, but never ever a God who would put the punisher above me and exalt him above me being a part of his flock.
Ezekiel 34 offers a better perspective on the goodness of God.
In any case, Jeremiah doesn’t measure up to the Prophets like Elijah, who not only withstood the might of Jezebel’s influence over Ahab but also exhorted the Israelites, in those trying times, to stick to Jehovah. Nor like John the Baptist, who resisted Herod.
Submitting to a political power that prospers, is one thing but to acquiesce to such political power doesn’t behove a Prophet. Jeremiah falls short and comes out as an expedient Prophet, who saw off his days of vassal-ship of Judah in comfort‼️ No wonder Jeremiah is called a ‘weeping prophet’ – helplessly Hopeless.
What could one expect of a contemporaneous Prophet like Jeremiah with the King Josiah, who was faultless but died in the hands of Neco, the Egyptian. Maybe his circumstances moulded him into a weeping prophet.
Me thinks that Jeremiah had been included in the canonical books of the Bible more because he supported the Babylonian Nebuchadnezzar than the Egyptian Pharoahs, who went down in their quest for suzerainty over Canaan.
Unless Prophecies are written like minutes at the time of such utterances, it should be taken with a generous pinch of salt. It is even highly probable that after facts have stabilized, post facto writings could be passed off as fulfilled Prophecies, by the Baruchs and Boswells to enhance the image of their idols.
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Well, i have been bombarded with many a comment, which i chose not to approve, asking me how the earlier blog on the subject of OBAMA WINNING THE ELECTION on the 24th of October, 2008, could be called a prophecy, as there was ALREADY A 50% chance of me getting it right anyway.
It needs a DIVINE EXPLANATION:-
THAT WHICH IS, ALREADY HAS BEEN.
AND THAT WHICH WILL BE, HAS ALREADY BEEN.
GOD ALLOWS THE SAME THINGS TO HAPPEN AGAIN. (Ecclesiastes ch. 3, v. 15- THE BIBLE)
The above passage is from the Bible and putatively attributed to the KING SOLOMON. The version of the Bible quoted above is THE NEW LIFE VERSION and i have deliberately left out the KING JAMES’ VERSION, as that could be confusing, to those not acquainted with the early 17th century English.
This passage in the Bible, impelled me to see the present happenings and correlate it with the Historical figures in the Bible. And i came to the conclusion that the Bible is the MICROCOSM given to man for understanding the MACROCOSM. He can draw from the historical figures not merely structurally, but based on the sounds of the characters.
Nostradamus’ HISTER was later interpreted to mean HITLER, post facto. Therefore one has to look for sounds of characters and also structurally the situation, and thereafter interpret the present happenings vis-a-vis the past. Just as …. AND THAT WHICH WILL BE, HAS ALREADY BEEN.
The sounds are very important, as the SOUNDS ARE NOTHING BUT THE word in action AS VOICE.
In my PROPHECY-BARACK, i had shown how similarities occur between the past and therefore by studying the sound patterns, the present could be DIVINED. I call this BIBLICAL AUDIOMANCY.
THE REASON BEING THAT,WHEN THE SOUND ASSOCIATIONS HAVE COAGULATED TO FORM A PARADIGM OF THE PAST, THE IMPENDING RESULT SHALL GO THE WAY IT WAS DECIDED EARLIER!!!
BIBLICAL AUDIOMANCY!!!! (DESERVES SOME SERIOUS RESEARCH AT THE MIT!!!)
ALL PROPHECIES ARE RISKS TAKEN BY THE DIVINER, AND POST FACTO ADJUSTED TO SUIT THE OUTCOME.
BUT IF ONE WANTS TO MAKE IT A SERIOUS BUSINESS, TO BAMBOOZLE THE LESS DISCERNING, GO AHEAD!!!!
IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN FOLLOWING WHAT I’VE GOTTA SAY PLEASE READ FROM THE
BIBLE , THE BOOK OF JUDGES CHAPTER:4&5
Many of you have been fascinated with the predictions of Nostradamus and have wondered how a person in human form could have predicted so accurately about things yet to happen. Even though , i consider the interpretations CONTRIVED, NOSTRADAMUS sells. Lo and behold! we have a prophet.
After reading Judges ch:4 & 5, u must be familiar with the dramatis personae. Yet knowing the indolence of human nature , let me make a brief of the chapters recommended.
There is a Judge in Israel named DEBORAH. During her regime (Kings had not yet been anointed in Israel, by then,and only Judges were dispensing Justice and organizing the society), Canaanites had been suppressing God’s chosen ones! She prophesies that BARAK, has to lead a posse of 10,000 persons from two of the weakest tribes viz. Zebulun and Naphtali and defeat the Canaanite king and his army leader SISERA. Deborah importunes BARAK to go it alone, but BARAK insists on her going with him. Deborah warns him that if she were to go with him for the war, he would have to share the glory of the victory with her. Yet , being a chivalrous man, he took her along for the battle. They fight Sisera’s forces, destroy the iron chariots of Sisera and Sisera takes refuge in the house of a neutral person’s(Heber) home and there, Heber’s wife Jael puts the tired Sisera to sleep and NAILS A TENT PEG INTO THE TEMPLE OF SISERA. Barak wins.
The above incident must have happened, if taken in a historical perspective, around 3400-3500 years back.
HISTORY IS GONNA REPEAT ITSELF AGAIN!!!
This US election 2008 is gonna replicate what happened then (3000 odd- centuries are odd vis-a-vis millennia- years ago).
Firstly notice the coincidence of names:
BARACK the BARAK
McCain the Canaanite!
Barack comes from the afro-american community that is in terms of the status of the tribes of Israel, equivalent to be from the tribe of NAPHTALI.
Secondly, coming to the structure of the elections. There was a debate as to whether Barack shud be given the Democratic ticket or Mrs. Clinton. BARACK OBAMA is to lead the Democrats. Even Clinton endorses after losing out. I don’t think she was keen on going with him as the VP nominee, yet in a strategic positioning for the 2012 or 2016 elections she is with BARACK OBAMA. She is one of the ex first ladies of the US for 2 terms. Thereby she hails from a superior tribe of Ephraim- just like Deborah was. She is joining Obama in the battle, like Deborah. Obama needs her, to counter the white Palin effect!!
Thirdly, the person who sealed the victory for Barak was Heber’s wife Jael, who drove the tent peg into Sisera’s head. In US08, we are gonna have the REPUBLICAN LADY SARAH PALIN- who is gonna drive the nail in on McCain, and thus get Barack the VICTORY.
Fourthly, women play an important role in real bad TIMES. In the case of Barak the Jew, it was Deborah and Jael; and in the case of BARACK OBAMA it’s gonna be Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin. Hillary who was the opponent, and Palin, who is in the opposite camp are gonna be INDIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VICTORY OF BARACK.
What was the punchline after Barak defeated the Canaanites(Judges ch.4&5)?? It was:
BARAK DEFEATS CANAANITES.
What is gonna be the punchline when Obama defeats McCain? It SHALL be:
BARACK DEFEATS McCAINITES!
Do u guys get the drift? So much for prophecies.
Get on with your life instead of figuring out things in advance.